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Old Jul 09, 2006, 09:26 AM // 09:26   #61
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I can't really think of another kd as shock...unless you can implement Iron Palm..



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Old Jul 09, 2006, 06:23 PM // 18:23   #62
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most other kd's are long casting, high energy or elite. or hammer.

tried the build earlier. With a RA team with NO monks, not even secondary monks, we got 2 glad points I managed to kill off their priests/monks. Hell, even warriors.

But i did have storm chaser instead of shock, and shadow refuge instead of a rez sig.

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Old Jul 09, 2006, 06:54 PM // 18:54   #63
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Tsk Tsk Tsk going in without a res signet...res signet > shadow refuse....
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Old Jul 09, 2006, 06:54 PM // 18:54   #64
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Hi

as for knock down apart from shock, take a peek at iron palm in deadly arts, 10 energy rather than 5, and requires the target be hexed, but carries no exhaustion penalty (and you should have enough energy after using black lotus anyway)

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Old Jul 09, 2006, 07:01 PM // 19:01   #65
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True.

BUT the target must be conditioned OR hexed. I can't inflict conditions like that. Also, shock is a sure interrupt. I've tried both now...iron palm won't cut it.
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Old Jul 09, 2006, 07:02 PM // 19:02   #66
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Tsk Tsk Tsk going in without a res signet...res signet > shadow refuse....
Did i forget to mention i didnt use runes either?!

oh yeh, NO MONK!!! B)
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Old Jul 09, 2006, 07:03 PM // 19:03   #67
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o_O Celab you like suicide runs don't you?
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Old Jul 09, 2006, 07:09 PM // 19:09   #68
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nah. i picked a target, if someone in the group called him, id pick another. Wait for the battle. Storm chase up there, unleashe the KD, and then storm chase away.

Got targeted by mesmers with heavy degen, by warriors trying to shock. At one point i had a warrior chasing me at 200 health, manged to get in the combo and kill him at 150 health, he only got 1 hit in Then another guy came, another sin hater. same result near enough.

i liked the elementalist, whenever he died he watched me. quite amazed at the sheer damage he was
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Old Jul 09, 2006, 07:19 PM // 19:19   #69
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Yes but I meant, no runes: bad bonusses, no vigor etc. That's like deliberately trying to ruin the build
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Old Jul 09, 2006, 08:45 PM // 20:45   #70
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but that the fact the build remained viable without those bonuses just gives it a right good luck.

Im still farming enough faction to get runes, i got the zelous tang now

oh yeh, i did use supior vigour, ive id'd around 6 of them in the last month.
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Lucky you..I never get good drops in PvE..that's why I PvP
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it was when i was farming etins.

Of course im poor now. I just had to buy 100+ skills.
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Old Jul 09, 2006, 10:07 PM // 22:07   #73
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True.

BUT the target must be conditioned OR hexed. I can't inflict conditions like that. Also, shock is a sure interrupt. I've tried both now...iron palm won't cut it.
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you dont need to have the opponent witha condition on them, just a hex, so it basically meets the dsame criteria as black lotus.

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True. But then shock is still better, because it allows you to kd without a hex. Mark of Instability won't recharge faster than 20 seconds. If you can mod it with more hexes, Iron Palm would surely be better.
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Old Jul 10, 2006, 11:17 AM // 11:17   #75
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True. But then shock is still better, because it allows you to kd without a hex. Mark of Instability won't recharge faster than 20 seconds. If you can mod it with more hexes, Iron Palm would surely be better.
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thing with that though is that using shock more than roughly every 20-30 seconds will start majorly impacting on your energy bar.

This is one of the things people tend to miss, the "hidden recharge" of exhaustion spells, wwhich is somewhere between 20-30 seconds.

Oh and also, theres always the chance someone else on your team ha sa hex ^_^

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Old Jul 10, 2006, 03:20 PM // 15:20   #76
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Yes, I often take hexers with me in AB. That's why you might want Iron Palm, but Shock is still more " sure ".
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shock gives 3 exhaustion, 1 energy back takes 3 seconds. 3*3= 9 seconds for that 3 energy to come back, not 20-30
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nice movies build seems to pwn ill try it in randoms you the man
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shock gives 3 exhaustion, 1 energy back takes 3 seconds. 3*3= 9 seconds for that 3 energy to come back, not 20-30
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Hmm? I assumed it was the same as all exhaustiong at 10 energy, if thats so i might check it out

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:EDIT: just checked, and on my ele it causes 10 energy to be lost, so i dont know how your making it only take 3.
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on my warrior its only 3 :S
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